diff --git a/htdocs/core/class/commonobject.class.php b/htdocs/core/class/commonobject.class.php
index 0d3ab9162dd..3781d66b0db 100644
--- a/htdocs/core/class/commonobject.class.php
+++ b/htdocs/core/class/commonobject.class.php
@@ -6635,7 +6635,8 @@ abstract class CommonObject
 					$perms = dol_eval($extrafields->attributes[$this->table_element]['perms'][$key], 1);
 				}
 
-				if (($mode == 'create' || $mode == 'edit') && abs($visibility) != 1 && abs($visibility) != 3) continue; // <> -1 and <> 1 and <> 3 = not visible on forms, only on list
+				if (($mode == 'create') && abs($visibility) != 1 && abs($visibility) != 3) continue; // <> -1 and <> 1 and <> 3 = not visible on forms, only on list
+				elseif (($mode == 'edit') && abs($visibility) != 1 && abs($visibility) != 3 && abs($visibility) != 4) continue; // <> -1 and <> 1 and <> 3 = not visible on forms, only on list and <> 4 = not visible at the creation
 				elseif ($mode == 'view' && empty($visibility)) continue;
 				if (empty($perms)) continue;
 				// Load language if required
@@ -6663,9 +6664,11 @@ abstract class CommonObject
 					case "view":
 						$value = $this->array_options["options_".$key.$keysuffix];
 						break;
-					case "edit":
-						$getposttemp = GETPOST($keyprefix.'options_'.$key.$keysuffix, 'none'); // GETPOST can get value from GET, POST or setup of default values.
-						// GETPOST("options_" . $key) can be 'abc' or array(0=>'abc')
+					case "create":
+                    case "edit":
+
+                        $getposttemp = GETPOST($keyprefix.'options_'.$key.$keysuffix, 'none'); // GETPOST can get value from GET, POST or setup of default values.
+                        // GETPOST("options_" . $key) can be 'abc' or array(0=>'abc')
 						if (is_array($getposttemp) || $getposttemp != '' || GETPOSTISSET($keyprefix.'options_'.$key.$keysuffix))
 						{
 							if (is_array($getposttemp)) {
@@ -6769,7 +6772,8 @@ abstract class CommonObject
 						case "view":
 							$out .= $extrafields->showOutputField($key, $value);
 							break;
-						case "edit":
+                        case "create":
+                        case "edit":
 							$out .= $extrafields->showInputField($key, $value, '', $keysuffix, '', 0, $this->id, $this->table_element);
 							break;
 					}
diff --git a/htdocs/core/class/html.formticket.class.php b/htdocs/core/class/html.formticket.class.php
index ecf137adb04..a48cf36c117 100644
--- a/htdocs/core/class/html.formticket.class.php
+++ b/htdocs/core/class/html.formticket.class.php
@@ -127,7 +127,7 @@ class FormTicket
      * @param  int	 $withdolfichehead			With dol_fiche_head
      * @return void
      */
-    public function showForm($withdolfichehead = 0)
+    public function showForm($withdolfichehead = 0, $mode = 'edit')
     {
         global $conf, $langs, $user, $hookmanager;
 
@@ -414,7 +414,7 @@ class FormTicket
         $reshook = $hookmanager->executeHooks('formObjectOptions', $parameters, $ticketstat, $this->action); // Note that $action and $object may have been modified by hook
         if (empty($reshook))
         {
-            print $ticketstat->showOptionals($extrafields, 'edit');
+            print $ticketstat->showOptionals($extrafields, 'create');
         }
 
         print '</table>';
diff --git a/htdocs/core/tpl/extrafields_view.tpl.php b/htdocs/core/tpl/extrafields_view.tpl.php
index 1ef3ef07255..e6cbad245d9 100644
--- a/htdocs/core/tpl/extrafields_view.tpl.php
+++ b/htdocs/core/tpl/extrafields_view.tpl.php
@@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ if (empty($reshook) && is_array($extrafields->attributes[$object->table_element]
 		//print $key.'-'.$enabled.'-'.$perms.'-'.$label.$_POST["options_" . $key].'<br>'."\n";
 
 		if (empty($enabled)) continue; // 0 = Never visible field
-		if (abs($enabled) != 1 && abs($enabled) != 3 && abs($enabled) != 5) continue; // <> -1 and <> 1 and <> 3 = not visible on forms, only on list
+		if (abs($enabled) != 1 && abs($enabled) != 3 && abs($enabled) != 5 && abs($enabled) != 4) continue; // <> -1 and <> 1 and <> 3 = not visible on forms, only on list <> 4 = not visible at the creation
 		if (empty($perms)) continue; // 0 = Not visible
 
 		// Load language if required
diff --git a/htdocs/ticket/card.php b/htdocs/ticket/card.php
index 8ca8bd22bfe..d59581fa914 100644
--- a/htdocs/ticket/card.php
+++ b/htdocs/ticket/card.php
@@ -637,7 +637,7 @@ if ($action == 'create' || $action == 'presend')
         $defaultref = '';
     }
 
-    $formticket->showForm(1);
+    $formticket->showForm(1, 'create');
 }
 
 if (empty($action) || $action == 'view' || $action == 'addlink' || $action == 'dellink' || $action == 'presend' || $action == 'presend_addmessage' || $action == 'close' || $action == 'delete' || $action == 'editcustomer' || $action == 'progression' || $action == 'reopen'